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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129043587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129043587">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="*">@everyone</span> hello all! meeting? Sorry I'm running a few minutes late.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129043601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129043601">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's all update the <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be">triage document</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129043878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129043878">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> is it still true that html5ever runs out of memory? we should file an issue on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129043885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129043885">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes it is, I don't think anyone worked on this yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129043978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129043978">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> has already opened an issue ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129043987" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129043987">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>There was something, let me look</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044000">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51372" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51372">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51372</a> but that's unrelated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044004">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>(also might be outdated)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044050">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>true yeah, and I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> was looking at that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044053">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>nothing else to my knowledge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044055">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(that I've filed)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044085">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, can someone file one?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044089" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044089">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, you can see in the document, but first off: we did great last week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044142">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>steady progress on performance</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044148" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044148">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>looking over the issues it seemed like it was time to focus some on diagnostics + ICEs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044151" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044151">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I triaged all the remaining issues: I put the "minor suggestions" into the Release Candidate box for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044153" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044153">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll file something after checking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044157" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044157">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>and focused on major areas of diagnostic fail</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044169">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are two: region error reporting and "unused mut", I think -- but <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> already has a PR around the "unused mut" lint errors <span class="emoji emoji-1f389" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044184">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I opened a PR about the region ones that tries to move us closer to the objective, and I hope to (later today) filer various follow-up issues related to that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044192">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that we will soon have the results from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span>'s crater run</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044194">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>which will probably give us new stuff to triage and ICEs galore</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044236">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I expect we will have our hands full</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044245">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh yeah and some number of years ago in 1776 the US of A threw off the yoke of monarchic oppression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044247" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044247">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Crater <em>claims</em> 11 hours :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044251" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044251">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I plan to be working tomorrow anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044253">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044273">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, <em>next week</em> I am going to be on my way to Greece</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044283">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I probably wont' be around on Tuesday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044291">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll be there (in Greece) until August, but I will be working from there 4 days a week, so you probably won't notice the difference ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044294">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>hopefully <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> will be back around next week though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044335">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(zulip is seriously lacking in the flags and feta cheese emoji department)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044343">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I blame the Unicode committee</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044344">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044349">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>What timezone is that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044352">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>PS I love these sorts of headlines: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-emoji-q-and-a-20160125-htmlstory.html" target="_blank" title="http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-emoji-q-and-a-20160125-htmlstory.html">http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-emoji-q-and-a-20160125-htmlstory.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044354" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044354">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>gmt+2 I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044356">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Meet the shadowy overlords who approve emojis "</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044357">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, it is GMT+2</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044358" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044358">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044361">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you may notice <em>that</em> difference =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044368">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, I tend to work relatively late hours</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044369">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>when I'm in Greece</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044373" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044373">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>so as to overlap better with US, and to permit a trip to the beach in the AM</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044437" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044437">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, enough about that. I've been slow but I'll prepare a more detailed schedule in any case (just for my own sanity)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044440">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>re: the ICEs and things...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044445">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I tried to put at least some mentoring instructions on most of the things I nominated, I think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044449">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52028" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52028">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52028</a> for html5ever filed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044460" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044460">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>with varying degrees of comprehensibility</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044476">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I plan to write an internals post and tweet out the link, encouraging people to sign up if they have time -- but please if you want to grab an issue don't hold back :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044536">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would particularly like to see somebody start in on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46908" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46908">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46908</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044537" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044537">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> what can I work on?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044544" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044544">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, perfect timing ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044556">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>should I tackle this <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46908" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46908">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46908</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044557">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>one of the issues — <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/50467" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/50467">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/50467</a> — is mostly about reducing to a standalone test case. I thought <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> you might enjoy that ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044558">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I'm building a fix for 52027 locally)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044564">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> please do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044569">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="emoji emoji-1f44d" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044571" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044571">(Jul 03 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>take a look at the instructions and see if they make sense (at least the high-level idea)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044627" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044627">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is there more work you'd like me doing related to the region errors - you mentioned your PR today would open up a handful of opportunities; or would you prefer I just take on whatever?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044654">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is definitely more work but I haven't opened up the issues yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044663">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably makes sense to do something else to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044665">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>as I guess it'd be easiset if that PR were to land first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044667">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we can discuss in the meantime the follow-up plans?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044715">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>also don't feel you <em>have</em> to focus on the E-mentor ones ;) if something else catches your fancy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044722">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@David Wood</span> I forget, did you work on the 2-phase activations stuff? Oh, that was <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116106">@Reed Koser</span> I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044727" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044727">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway this might be a small-ish but fun refactoring in that area</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044731">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51345" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51345">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51345</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044739">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I did.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044740">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51351" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51351">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51351</a> is a bit hairier but at least tangentially related to regions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044751" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044751">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>my mentoring instructions there were maybe a bit "notes to myself" ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044814">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll have a look at them and see what I come up with.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044837">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good, well, that's all I got to say :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044840">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if anybody else has any notes or questions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044852">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>is there more work related to liveness maybe ? (maybe the 40-50% left to grab on tuple-stress). I guess we'll also have the crater triage to handle soon</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044877" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044877">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah good point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044884">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, I think there will be follow-up work on tuple-stress</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044927">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>one thing I was thinking about filing as an issue was experimenting with using sparse bitsets</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044934" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044934">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>or html5ever, which is basically a simili-ICE</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044935">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>instead of the dense bitsets we are using now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044940">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>this would be a fairly minor tweak to the code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044953" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044953">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>though it would invalidate <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>'s <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/52007" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/52007">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/52007</a> PR (but if it pays off for tuple-stress, that seems ok)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044958">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>the advantage would be that iteration is O(number of live things)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044966">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>well plus if there are way more locals than live locals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044967">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>then of course it's a win</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044975">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>a more radical thing would be to try and use <span class="emoji emoji-1f438" title="frog">:frog:</span> somehow :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129044979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129044979">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd prob try the sparse bitsets first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045035">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>just because it's easy and not disruptive :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045126">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>we mentioned before doing liveness in Polonius issues I think (at least, parts of it)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045156">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>it was mostly brainstorming of course :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045259">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I mean eventually I'd prob like to move more and more of the dataflow-like analyses into polonius</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045349">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>it could also be an interesting issue (sparse bitsets) for other contributors eg in internals thread, twitter etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045482" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045482">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>(this is what I remembered from the Polonius issues linked to liveness, "emit def/use facts from rustc" + <span class="emoji emoji-1f438" title="frog">:frog:</span> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/polonius/pull/45#discussion_r190516457" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/polonius/pull/45#discussion_r190516457">https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/polonius/pull/45#discussion_r190516457</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20July%203/near/129045656" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20July.203.html#129045656">(Jul 03 2018 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>if it's the end of the meeting, good evening / afternoon everybody <span class="emoji emoji-1f44b" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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